Grateful Dead Live at Shrine Auditorium on 1968-08-23
- Live concert
- Grateful Dead
- DeadLists Project
Not a note of this material appears on Two From The Vault. It turns out that TFTV is composed exclusively of 8.24.68.
Updated lineage: 8 track multitrack Reels> "Sonic Wizardry"> DAT> Cassette> DATs> CDRs> EAC> SHN
[Had been marked: The source info for 8.23.68 is thus identical to that of TFTV, namely: 8 track multitrack Reels>"Sonic Wizardry">DAT>CDR.]
- 2004-06-23 13:01:10
- 8 track multitrack Reels> Sonic Wizardry > DAT > Cassette > DATs > CDRs > EAC > SHN
- Los Angeles, CA
- Transferred by
- Darrin Sacks
- Shrine Auditorium
Subject: Great show
Subject: Must listen
Subject: Classic Anthem period
Subject: cool a$$ '68 FUEGO!
This show is a must have!
Subject: Friend of mine out of St Stephen?
Subject: One of '68s Best
The Other One/Cryptical is fully formed by these shows and I think this could be my favorite of the four. Just sheer balls during TOO, Cryptical is gorgeously jammed out, rising to a wonderful peak and then quietly gliding to a halt.
Listening to this Dark Star again, man this is just great stuff. My new favorite of '68 - Jerry's range of tone, color and emotion is just mesmerizing. '68 Dark Stars may be seen by some as more "one dimensional" but not me. This is as good as it gets.
The Eleven - damn, the night after is great, but this trumps it easily. The speed and intensity of this version is unbelievable. Just when you think they're running out of gas, it picks up a full head of steam during the transition to Death Don't. That cut is a total bummer though.
And Alligator>Caution - well, all I can say is there's a reason they included as a the Anthem bonus track; this is one of the best versions they ever did.
The only negative I could muster here (and this is nothing against the show itself) is the tracking is really poor. The beginning of St. Steven is at the end of Dark Star and Drums>Gator>Caution are all one track; kind of annoying.
Subject: Sleepy Alligator
The meat is the Alligator > Drumz > Alligator > Caution. Pig calls for his whiskey as the boys tear down the Fillmore, gas the Avalon and build a Shrine to mind-bending expansiveness. A young Phillip Chapman Lesh unleashes his mighty bass as the Rhythm Devils pound away setting you off on a rocket ship to a higher existence. Then Pig takes over and provides a history lesson in the blues involving a gypsy woman who schools him on the aspect that all one really needs is just a touch...of mojo hand. The feedback is positive as you are left on a new potato caboose of graceful instuments where your love has become a toothless crone.
Five stars on this one and thanks to Pete for dropping this nugg upon us.
Subject: just the first show: awesome!
awesome! all the way through, its 68 theres nothing more to say everything was as expected which was better than expected, caution is included in the alligator the "all you need" segment was far out, really cool. and the dark star was super, sublime, just great!
Subject: we need not fret
Subject: Crucial Material
Subject: Two shows: second is outstanding
Starting with the second Cryptical, we have a really outstanding show, part of an amazing run of 8/21, 8/22, 8/23, and 8/24 (released as “Two From the Vault” – I agree that none of this 8/23 material is on Two From the Vault. The CD may use other songs from this show that aren’t here). The Cryptical reprise settles down to an almost introspective quiet section with understated organ, bass, and Jerry interplay. They holding back for several minutes before launching into the next extended jam, which simply ends. (No New Potato here, but there is a good one the previous night, 8/22/68.)
The Live Dead-era material is the highlight of these four shows. With this run of shows, they really got Dark Star right – this week began the golden age of Dark Stars. In this one, Jerry places every note where it should be, and Phil acts as Jerry’s copilot. In contrast to the Anthem of the Sun material in this show, Dark Star is an introspective journey, as the best Dark Stars are, ebbying and flowing, rising and falling. Yet, it has musical form, and remains melodic. Comparabile to the 20th-century classical composers Nielson or Sebalius.
We get a classic St. Stephan, which explodes after the vocals just before The Eleven, then settles into the 3-3-3-2-metered (11/4 time) jam. Superb, The Eleven is exciting stuff, and it rocks. The transition into Death Don’t Have No Mercy subtly begins at about 8 minutes with a key change. It’s still jamming along in 11/4 at a fast pace, but is now in the minor key of Death. After a few minutes there’s the gradual slowing in to Death Don’t Have No Mercy. Unfortunately, there is a painful gap in the recording during the transition. (This transition is complete in the 8/21 show.)
Death Don’t Have No Mercy is another great performance. Jerry’s vocal and guitar transmit passion and anguish, as does the best of the blues.
Alligator starts out bouncy, and we finally get to hear Pigpen, who is up to the task. After drums the Alligator reprise is exciting, electric, and inspired. Again, Jerry and Phil going to town.
The tracks are mislabeled here: Caution actually starts 16 minutes into Track 16, first the intro, then Pigpen goin’ down to see the gypsy woman one fine day, yes he did. All you got have is just a little touch of mojo hand… It’s wild and psychedelic, evolving into feedback.
Track 17 here is three minutes of feedback, or space—they’re playing feedback like instruments in a musical composition, and a slow, quiet one at that. They touchdown for the landing, and we're back on earth.
Subject: immersed in early GD
Pigpen is still King, what an awesome bluesy, acidy, raucous, flowing psychedelic sound they had. Like the one reviewer said not a bad show in ’68, maybe just sound quality issues, but come on how lucky are we to have all these sound files. Great organ on this set, pre-TC.
Listen to all the fantastic Aligator/Cautions/Viola Lees/St.Stephen’s/Crypticals/Other Ones/Darks of this era….
Subject: revised review
this show is sick---always liked the 68 stuff...immaculata!!!!!
Subject: Am I the Only One...............???
All of this is fantastic. Glad someone sorted out the filler issue. I'm sitting here at work with a melted head and have stopped answering the "Who is that?" question from everyone walking by/into my office. I decided to stream this one because it's my daughter's birthday. The Eleven is epic (IMHO) - listen to Bill and Mickey weave a tapestry in percussion. They rock like a rowboat on the ocean in a force 9 storm.
I'd almost forgotten how damn good these guys were good early. Looks like the office gets a trip down 1968 flashback lane tomorrow........
Subject: It's been a while, but...
The week from January 1-7 of DL's Taper's Section at dead.net included a St Stephen> That's It For The Other One from "early-1968 Carousel" (that's what it says on the tape). Anyway, it's the same as the St Stephen> That's It For The Other one here listed as 8.29.68. Deadbase gives the first St Stephen as 5.24.68 so, assuming that St Stephen was first in setlists from May, and knowing that the filler is from the Carousel, it must be from either the end of May/beginning of June run or early June run at the Carousel.
The St Stephen is pretty tentative so it must be an early one (and the ending, as opposed to a William Tell Bridge) is a dead giveaway.
(Deep breath) - sound right to you? Whatever the case, it's sweet filler.
There is too much to rant and rave about here just listen up and disregard the cuts and glitches.
Subject: 68 rocks
Subject: High Energy All the Way Through
In fact, it may be possible that this show occured before 6/14. It's also especially unlikely that this show could have been recorded at a tiny club such as the Matrix, since the SBD suggests a far bigger venue. My best guess would be one of the Carousel Ballroom shows 5/30-6/1/68 or 6/7-6/9/68 or maybe even Shrine Exhibition Hall 5/17/68.
Subject: Editing Notes
St. Stephen is only the last 15 seconds. after "Answer Man" there is a unique 2:24 jam before the Cryptical starts.
The Alligator breaks down as:
Alligator --> 4:02
Drums --> 2:32
Alligator --> 2:49
Drums --> 0:16
The tracking is off by 1 second or so on a few tracks.
I don't know why the filler stays listed here and does not get it's own entry as 8-29-68, even if it's questionable, seems clear it's NOT part of 8-23-68.
The Second To Last Track is not really drums Alligator as listed. I busted it up this way:
drums > 3:54 (some bass notes around 3:20)
Alligator Jam (no vocals) > 10:19
Caution > 12:29
Subject: Powerful LP
Subject: Gotta have this one !
This is not mastered or mixed as well as 2ftv but shit the original 8 tracks are great.plus the performance on this date is way better than 2ftv IMHO.
Don't miss this one.
Subject: The Two-Tape Conspiracy
This can sound surprisingly good with a little EQ'ing, and you can hear many details, but they are "muddy" to varying degrees.
But man is this download worth it. Look at the set list, and yeah, this is the kind of 1968 freak out you could dream of (Gator's mystical percussion and Jer's tender solo) These are our holy relics. (All this, even before before I've heard this version of "The Eleven").
Subject: Confused about setlist
Subject: Some on Anthem remaster
Dead logic: 2 Shrine shows recorded...1st show (this one) excellent, 2nd show was shut down by the cops during Morning Dew (last song?). Well, release the 2nd then. hence: Two from the vault. Same place, nearly exacting set-lists.
These were multi-track recorded!!! Bag it now
Subject: stephen is cut
Subject: this show is on fire